Coming Commercial Real Estate Collaspe- NOTHING can prevent NEXT real estate crash?!?!

December 7, 2009 - 2:37 am 25 Comments

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Aug. 10 (Bloomberg) — The collapse in commercial real estate is preventing Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke from declaring the economy and financial markets are healed.

Property values have fallen 35 percent since October 2007, according to Moodys Investors Service. Thats making it tough for owners to refinance almost $165 billion of mortgages for skyscrapers, shopping malls and hotels this year, pressuring companies such as Maguire Properties Inc., the largest office landlord in downtown Los Angeles, to put buildings up for sale.

Negative Fundamental

Demand for commercial space comes from employment and the income generated by that employment, said University of Pennsylvania Professor Joseph Gyourko, director of the Wharton Schools Samuel Zell and Robert Lurie Real Estate Center in Philadelphia. Mounting job losses are a really significant negative fundamental, signaling that conditions are going to be tough for the industry for a while, he said.

That may spill over into mounting losses at some banks. Forty-seven percent of loans at the 7,000-plus smaller U.S. lenders are in commercial real estate, compared with 17 percent for the biggest banks, according to New York-based Goldman Sachs Group Inc.

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25 Responses to “Coming Commercial Real Estate Collaspe- NOTHING can prevent NEXT real estate crash?!?!”

  1. sirhogin1 Says:

    We must remove ALL …
    We must remove ALL the criminals in congress NOW!!!! They do NOT represent us at all.

  2. gustafus21 Says:

    Paul Harvey is the …
    Paul Harvey is the only person who explained this for me…

    If 14 trillion dollars vanished from the economy… the government can inject 14 trillion into the economy in the form of targeted relief … before we get inflation.

    NOBODY wants us to know this… because the gangsters of business want it both ways.

    they want the bailouts… if the money goes to healthcare – they grab the megaphones of Jewish media and yell INFLATION!!

  3. milkmandan77 Says:

    fuck these …
    these politicians.

    gangsters in both parties have hijacked our beautiful capitalism. FIRE THEM ALL, THESE SOCIALIST FUCKS!

    my favorite stocks for 2010: canned foods, guns, and ammo.

    the ultimate bartering tool in 2030: a giant costco bottle of jack daniels you bought in today’s dollars. i figure i’ve got 20 years to stack my entire attic with booze. i’ll be the richest man on my street.

  4. dave997 Says:

    WOOOOOOOOOOO im …
    WOOOOOOOOOOO im ready for another massive credit crunch and sell off, im ready to get into SDS and DOG

  5. panther9mm Says:

    you are already …
    you are already poor, so it will not affect you much. as more people join the poverty list, it may look like you are moving up

  6. panther9mm Says:

    yes, the dow will …
    yes, the dow will be at least 5,500 by the end of this year. maybe it can be above 10,000 too.

  7. herbs814 Says:

    and when you can’t …
    and when you can’t make an intelligent argument, you resort to insults? LAME.

  8. MrNeo2001 Says:

    herbs814, whatever …
    herbs814, whatever dude. Keep watching Jim Cramer & listening to Sean Hannity. It obviously has made you more intelligent! ROFL

  9. herbs814 Says:

    “someone’s gonna …
    “someone’s gonna have to be bailed out” (4:34)

    someone’s going to clamor for a bailout. someone’s going to mount a public relations campaign appealing for a bailout. but this does not mean that imprudent lenders need to have a bailout to “save” our economy, no matter what claims are made to support Keynesian “stimulus” or “multiplier” effects.

  10. herbs814 Says:

    first you claim …
    first you claim that there will be no money, then you claim that more money will be printed, completely changing your argument.

    If people cannot get “their” money at the bank, then the money that remains in circulation will increase in value (people will mark down prices to reduce inventory and get more cash to meet payments).

    If more money is printed (and if that money can be delivered to depositors-consumers), existing money in circulation is devalued (prices rise). Two different scenarios

  11. MrNeo2001 Says:

    No I didn’t, think …
    No I didn’t, think about it herbs, the FDIC insures most bank patrons for upto $250K…meaning if their money is lost anything upto that amount is protected by the Gov’t, by operating in the RED means they don’t even have the money that they claim insures you! The solution: To print more money to paper over the problem, I don’t see how you believe that makes the dollar MORE valuable?!

  12. herbs814 Says:

    increased …
    increased government spending has never helped the economy. Even during wartime, the “multiplier” is less than 1. In peacetime, the multiplier of government spending is even lower. Government spending is always a net LOSS to society: it always takes more from social power than it returns. And Obama’s rosy assessment of the budget and stimulus assumes a magical multiplier of 1.5 — which has never occurred in the history of mankind. Government spending to revive the economy is utter foolishness.

  13. herbs814 Says:

    you contradicted …
    you contradicted yourself: if there will be less money, then the money that remains will be MORE valuable, unless and until government completely demonitizes the dollar.

  14. ngonea Says:

    theserf3 – wanna …
    theserf3 – wanna know where the money went?
    it went to Europe, check Max Keiser videos for more details

  15. thomasst2 Says:

    It’s a bit of both. …
    It’s a bit of both. The same economic imbalances that produced the credit bubble also allowed Bush to spend on military intervention. It’s called a “guns and butter” economy. Obama’s doing the same on a much bigger level because he hopes the increased Govt spending will prop up the credit markets and bubble prices as much as possible. Only difference is the consumer was propping up the bubble during Bush’s tenure.

  16. MrNeo2001 Says:

    FAUX NEWS needs to …
    FAUX NEWS needs to be STOPPED!!! And the financial crisis is going to cripple the U.S., most people aren’t thinking about it, but with the FDIC in the red then if there is a run on the banks..there WILL BE NO MONEY!!! It will just be gone and the paper will be worthless like Zimbobwe!

  17. lilbitparanoid Says:

    I wonder if this …
    I wonder if this guy gets a bonus or something for interrupting his guests.

  18. herbs814 Says:

    Obama’s welfare …
    Obama’s welfare spending in 2010 alone is more than Bush spent on Iraq during his entire presidency (Congressional Research Service, CNSnews). The biggest spending is what Obama is doing now to intervene in the economy, not what Bush spent on military intervention.

  19. herbs814 Says:

    “why is the stock …
    “why is the stock market up after 5 more banks fail (92) ?

    artifically low interest rates punish savings (bank deposits) and encourage borrowing (buying stocks on margin, corporations running operations or expansions on credit rather than savings).

  20. kysmik Says:

    Same reason China’s …
    Same reason China’s is Serf, its artifically pumped up by government bail out money, we would already be facing bank runs and massive hysteria if the gov didnt lead the people to believe that we are in wonderful fiscal shape and there is no reason to fear. Keep your eye on the REAL job loss figures, that will tell you what rail this country is REALLY on.

  21. theserf3 Says:

    You can look at a …
    You can look at a few facts published by the government themselves and come to a reasonable conclusion that we as a country are in trouble. These are: GM, Bailout Money, Unemployment, and bank failures. All of that information is readily available. Well not the where the bailout money went but you get my point.

    2010 more mortgages change and add that with the commercial real estate collapse. On top of everything else.

    On a side note why is the stock market up after 5 more banks fail (92) ?

  22. kysmik Says:

    Come on Pug, the …
    Come on Pug, the first rule is: trust no one! lol. Believe me, I live someplace where I can hide if I need to.

  23. puga420 Says:

    so…. where do you …
    so…. where do you live?? give me coordinates so I can crash there :)

  24. puga420 Says:

    thank you!! people …
    thank you!! people are stupid!! they are like its all cool.

  25. kysmik Says:

    Warbuff?
    Im sad to …

    Warbuff?
    Im sad to say this but I agree with you 100 percent. What’s even sadder is that no one wants to believe it, they are all going on their merry way and rolling their eyes at all the “crazy” talk. It looks like the day is coming when the only “metal” we should be storing is lead.

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